In this forum we are going to discuss some topics in music education over the course of the semester. I will pose a question to you and you are to engage in polite discussion on you feeling towards the topic. You are expected to have a minimum of 3 posts regarding the topic and response to others. Remember, to be respectful and work to have mature dialogue on the topic.
Topic One
The world of music downloading forever changes when Napster made its debut over 10 years ago. People have very strong feelings on this topic. Is it ethical to download or is being blown out of proportion? Record companies and artists claim they are losing $100,000's of dollars to illegal downloading. Where do you stand on this issue.
I get all of my music from "illegal" downloading, so yes I think it's being blown out of proportion. Why is downloading illegal anyways? SO many people download. Not many people buy CD's anymore because of Ipods and MP3's. Do the record company's and their artists really NEED anymore money? They make millions from their music. So what if they lose some money because people download instead of buying CD's. They make money from concerts, any endorcements/sponsors they have, etc. At least their music is still getting out there.
ReplyDeleteTo tell the truth, I haven't actually heard of Napster before this. I can see where Mc, CRJ is coming from. I cannot say I haven't downloaded music before, because I have, but I feel that it's wrong to "illegaly" download music. I know it sounds hypocritcal, and this isn't much of an excuss but I've only downloaded music where I couldn't find it on itunes or in any store (like American Idol stuff).
ReplyDeleteI agree that the artists and record companies dont NEED anymore money,but what about the new artists? How will they make their living off of downloading? I just find it morally wrong to "illegally" download music. Must be my upbringing :D
I don’t get any of my music from “illegal” downloading, so I see no need to download music. I still can easily fill my iPod and MP3 player with music that I enjoy listening to. While young or beginner musicians can get their music out easily, musicians can’t get income from CD sales since all of their music is only downloaded. If downloading continues, it could be that there is no demand for CDs at all. One could also go so far as to say that since our lives are becoming more and more hectic and chaotic, there will be no time or need to attend concerts. Our lives can be one big concert since iPods and MP3 players are small and portable.
ReplyDeleteI personally download almost all of my songs rather than buy them. I agree with Mc, CRJ that it is being blown way out of proportion. CD's are becoming a thing of the past, just like how VHS did, and how DVD is on its way to right now. The artists should know that CD's just aren't what people use anymore. MP3 is what is in right now. Even if an artist were to fight back, its almost impossible to stop all the illegal downloading, as someone in the world will just upload it again. They should just accept it, move on and think about what could eventually replace MP3, and use that as their foundation to make more money.
ReplyDeleteWell, technically those big artists ARE losing $100,000's of dollars from people downloading their music for free, but compared to what? The millions they get? Seems a little...greedy to try and get back every penny no matter what. Clearly, as Brianne mentioned, this issue would affect the less popular/new artists more, but their music would also be less available on the internet and therefore they wouldn't suffer as much from this particular problem. I personally fully agree with MC, CRJ, it IS being blown a little out of proportion. I actually think it could even be a form of advertisement. If you become a fan of a particular band, you'll probably end up spending money on them in some way or other, whether it be merchendise, concert tickets, etc.
ReplyDeleteI am torn on the issue. I don't see it as wrong, but I have a hard time saying that it is the right thing to do. Downloading music has been enormously influential in expanding my tastes, learning band songs from an audio file, and just keeping me entertained. Unfortunately, as has been said, it is more difficult for new artists to succeed when they aren't making money off of all the music that is being listened to. Taking all of these things into account, we have no idea how detrimental it really for artists when we download music, and I wonder if it is all a publicity stunt in order to sell more product by putting the label, "illegal" on the downloading process.
ReplyDeleteMr. Chubbs has an excellent point, "Taking all of these things into account, we have no idea how detrimental it really for artists when we download music, and I wonder if it is all a publicity stunt in order to sell more product by putting the label, "illegal" on the downloading process." None of use are far enough into the music world to fully understand what is going on. So then if this is all a scam than I see no problem with downloading music, as it would be helping their system of business. But, with companies such as Napsters you do have to pay a monthly rate for their service of providing music. When using Napster there are specific pieces of personal information that they require when you sign up. A few include:
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- Credit Card Number and
- Billing information
When Napster has your e-mail they send promotional e-mails straight to your inbox. Napster also holds contests which, when you enter may require you to give out your personal information.
Besides the information that they gather with your consent, they also collect more as said in their privacy policy, “...and we also have features that automatically collect information from users of our service” which can be found at:
http://www.napster.ca/privacypolicy.html
Companies may pay Napster either for your contact information or for their information to be displayed on the Napster website or to be sent to the individual users. Some of this money and maybe some from the users monthly fees could be for the musicians, but I am not certain wether it is or not.
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ReplyDeleteOooh, Mr. Chubbs amd Clarissa make a good point. Now that I think about it, I AM on the fence. If it were a scam I wouldn't feel so bad about it. And yes, downloading music IS a great way to listening to band songs (I recently downloaded Rumble). I dunno, I still feel a little guilty about downloading though...maybe if we did know more about the music industry. Like what really happens...behind the scenes... FIELD TRIP!!
ReplyDeleteIt would be very interesting if the whole thing was a scam, but it's quiet possible with how the media is today in our world. Although when I download songs, I currently use limewire, which doesn't ask for any personal information, and its free, unless you get the pro version. So the number musicians that make money off of it being a "scam" would have to be figured out from how many people use a program like limewire vs. napster.
ReplyDeleteI see uploading and downloading songs more as a way to promote an artists music. I agree with Shahed that if someone really likes a band, they wouldn't give up a chance to go to a concert, or buy their merchandise. And with how expensive things like band t-shirts and all the other merchandise, some artists might make even more from a concert than selling CD's, though the cost of transportation has to be figured in.
I do not believe that down loadin music is so horrible. Most artists create their art so people can enjoy it, and that is exactly what downloading music does. Also, everyone says that it hurts new artists alot more than regular artists, but last year, Shad (who came to talk about music to the music and career calsses), said that music downloading allows new musicians to let people know that they are there and creating music.
ReplyDeleteJust because someone calls something 'illegal' doesn't make it so, with that logic, I could just as easily say that I have "Illegal math homework" and everyone would think the same way.
One of the things to always consider is this. If you were a business owner and worked hard to develop a product and suddenly people were copying it and there was no need for you provide it, what would happen to your business? As a society I think we place a high value on our personal entertainment, especially with the introduction of the MP3 player, which can hold more songs than most people would listen in their lifetime in some cases. In order for those to function we need people to produce music. Here is an article that sheds a little light on royalties.
ReplyDeleteI like the comment made by Tenor22, in that just by calling something illegal, it doesnt make it so.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I have to agree with Mr. Stevenson, and I'm still on the fence, as Brianne said. An artist who has created something out of nothing, made it their own, spent time on it, and made it great for the public to hear it. What do they get from all that work?
To use an example that I could relate to...We put tons of effort into our schoolwork. Day in, day out, we work our tails off to try and get good grades. If we do that, we get scholarships, are able to get into good schools, and move on to higher education. You should reap the benefits of the labour that you put into something, whether it be a new song or a biology project that I havent started yet. The artist should benefit from our downloading in some way. Perhaps royalties for downloaded songs ? :P
But that wouldnt work....
I believe that Mr. Stevenson and Mr. Chubbs have pushed me over the fence. I know that ipods and mp3s (and technology and general) are basically our life now (sad but for the MOST part true), but I would hate for someone to lose their business.
ReplyDeleteThese artists have put a LOT of effort into these songs, and I know that if I was able to create something half as good as them, I wouldn't exactly be thrilled that people were copying it and then I would lose my business.
I mean sure, we go to their concerts, buy their t-shirts and stuff, but I think they deserve some credit and some money for the hard work they put into to create their songs. I dunno, maybe I'm looking to far into it, but I'm just gonna stick with not agreeing with it.
I think that it's a difficult issue to address, howvere my opinion is that it it slightly being blown out of proportion.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Tenor22 in the sense that music is made as an art form, something to enjoy. As long as they are given credit for their work, which they are, i see no problem with downloading.
Yes, record companies are losing money due to the decrease in CD sales however that is money that is being gained back through other means. The world has changed the way that we view music in the sense that many people choose to "watch" music now - so, though they cost money to make, record companies gain lots from music videos as well as from tours and merch sales etc.
Also, if you think about it where would some of the artists today be without downloading and the internet? I agree that its a great thing for new artists; many of the popular artists today need, in some way, give credit for their popularity today to a start with downloading from the internet. Personally, I often go onto myspace or facebook and look up new bands, and listen to/download their tracks. Bands such as Chiodos, Summerside, or We the kings that started outr unsigned and relied solely on word of mouth/downloading and the internet before they could get enough of a fanbase to tour and make an EP; bands which are now widely known and popular.
Downloading is something that, if used properly, can actually be used to the artist's advantage; like, for example, last year when Radiohead released their CD "In Rainbows" online - with no set price. It was available for download, however they also made lots of money from donations as well as expanded thier fanbase and got their music out there.
Though downloading music is technicaclly illegal, i think that at some point in time we are all guilty of it, and personally im not so sure that its an entirely bad thing.
htyssn8 has good point as well. This is being blown out of proportion but I think that it is by a good reason. It is because civilians know so little about the whole music business and each will draw their own conclusion. Sure theirs a ton of information on the web but who’s to say that the music business hasn’t already gone through the information to ensure that we usually receive a certain view point. Now like what Brianne has said, I feel that Mr.Stevenson and Mr.Chubbs have backed up the side of fence I was leaning towards. For now, I am sure that I feel downloading of music is morally wrong.
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ReplyDeleteMy opinion on this whole matter is that downloading music is totally fine! Yes, it is illegal but you can't blame someone for doing it. I love music and i love that i can get it for free. This issue is like speeding on the streets. Almost EVERYONE does it and only a few people get caught for it. It can;t be stopped so i believe that we should embrace it.
Im apart of a band... www.myspace.com/utkf (yeah im networking my band in this blog), and if I were to see my band's music on itunes or even limewire (love limewire!) I would be very proud and pretty happy to know that people want to listen to music that I(my band) wrote and played. Musicians get most of their money from sponsers and advertisement anyways. But it is true that CD sales do to some extent determine how much they get from their sponcers.
Alanna said something about cds becoming a thing of the past, and i dissagree with that.. well for my point of veiw anyways. I love burning Cds for my car even though I know i can attach an mp3 player to the speakers. Theres something special about cds and even tapes and records. It makes the music you listen to feel more genuine and i like that feeling which is why i feel like i will allways be using Cds for the rest of my life. Ill be getting most of the songs for free though! ;) haha however if i really like a band (Blink 182) I'll definatly buy their CD even if I allready have their songs downloaded because I want to see the artists I like around for the future.
ps. check out that link to my band's myspace lol, we recently just recorded new songs and they should be up within a month we are hoping and CDs are coming out too! CDs!
I am slightly changing my position to totally fine to slightly beoing blown out of proportion. Yes, whe you download (notice how I didn't say illegal) a song, some people do lose some money. However, the way some peope talk about it, it sound like a single mouse-click can put dozens of people out of business. And anyway, it is not like the C.D. section of your local store is a complete ghost town because everyone is at home downloading music (you should see my brother's cd collection).
ReplyDeletehtyssn8 said that record companies make money thhrough other means, and I totally agree with that. And nowadays, musicians make a whack of money through endorsements. And anyway, musicians are now using the internet to find ways to make their music better (like bands that put their music on myspace and allow for comments.
That being said, I only believe that there are two parts of music downloading that are wrong. Selling downloaded music for profit (that's just monetary gains from people losing money), and uploading music(the artists should have more control over what happens to their music). Everything else is okay (but I should note that people shouldn't compulsively download).
I am a bit on the fence on this subject as I am guilty of downloading music. It's quick, easy, and obviously free. However, I do attempt to buy some music off itunes or even by the CD. I don't think we should expect that this subject is ever going to change, people are always going to download music, movies etc. I believe however that if people make some effort to buy some CDs or purchase some music that is a step forward.
ReplyDeleteIt is unfair to artists to not get all the benefits they deserve when people do not go out and buy CD's. However, some artists such as Britney Spears etc. have enough money, to be blunt. It is the starting artists who are just breaking into the business that really suffer. SO I personally feel that if you download some music, and try to buy some music (as I attempt to do), it somewhat equals out.
I also think I stand somewhere in the middle of the two options. In the one case I do feel sympathy for the record companies and the artists but on the other hand I think we need these music downloading programs. I think it is way too expensive to be paying like $3.50 for a song on itunes when we all hold hundreds, if not thousands of songs on our various music players.
ReplyDeleteI believe a compremise should be made and we should meet somewhere in the middle where the price is reduced to say 25 cents per song and no more free-illegal downloading. The fact of the matter is you can't complain about people downloading their music for free when the price to pay for them is ridiculous.
So at the moment I believe it is ok to keep downloading music until itunes and other such companies change their systems of seeling music around.
I agree with freemama. THe price now for a song off itunes is 0.99 cents which doesn't seem like that much but when you have hundred or thousands of songs it really adds up. If downloading didn't exist, people probably wouldn't have as much music on their ipods/mp3s because it would get to expensive.
ReplyDeleteThis might even cause artists to have more trouble getting their songs out as people are more unwilling to buy it (this is in the world where downloading doesn't exist! :D) and therefore struggle to even got their song out, other than the use of the radio.
I still think it is totally fine to download music... we all love it and I kinda need it. But it doesnt stop there, there's now ways to download music videos for free and even movies. I know guys that have movies on DVD that arent even out in theatres yet and theres even sites that stream movies for free. Its much bigger then just music. Theres a bunch of people who steal satallite (a big majority too). People have been stealing since the beginning of time its pretty much human nature and trying to stop it would be like trying to stop a wave from crashing onto shore (beautiful simile... its so true). I think the world has way too many bigger problems then this so i don't stress on it much... i'm more worried about things like what courses am I gunna choose for next year?! Its due tomorrow!! and.. global warming :O thats a big one and like what I'm gunna be wearing tomorrow (be honest you are too).
ReplyDeleteIt's a very good issue but I believe that it will NEVER be brought to justice so let it be.
I think that downloading music is a two sided deal, because really everyone calls it ILLEGAL but how is it if hardly anyone goes to jail because of it?
ReplyDeleteMost of my music is downloaded ILLEGALLY and I have never had any problems with it. Although I do buy CDs and rip the music from them for artists I cannot find on my software.
I do agree that recording companies and artists are losing so profit but not to the extent that they claim.
downloading, we all do it, DONT LIE!
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Including his beautiful analogy, I agree with pretty much everything whoren has said. he's even coming from a band himself and can give us that perspective. I do not feel that downloading is wrong. And with this new perspective, Id probably be leaning towards downloading as a positive thing for many up and coming groups, opposed to negative.
ReplyDeleteI agree with mr.chubbs and whoren, upcoming / new bands need downloading to get our there and make it in the music industry.
ReplyDeleteuhum, i think htyssn8 said something along the lines of this as well. And honestly I wouldn't know about half of my music if it weren't for downloading.
By looking at this situation from a different perspective, I do agree with whoren, Mr.Chubbs, htyssn8, and kelsey-chaos. For new bands and those who are not as well known as others, downloading can immensely help. Just like Mr.Chubbs said, whoren gives a different perspective to this discussion since he is in a band and by what his opinion has been so far I would take that he feels that downloading is a helpful tool. I guess what we really have is a love-hate relationship with downloading.
ReplyDeleteDownloading has become such a large part of our society. Bands become popular due to the high amount of downloading of their songs, and therefore make revenue of concerts, tshirts etc.
ReplyDeleteI believe that changes need to be made if people actually expect people to stop downloading. If CD's didn't cost 15-20 dollars to buy, more people might buy them? It costs only about 2-5 bucks to even make a CD, so why not just make it double the profit? make a CD 6 bucks instead of 20 and I KNOW i would buy more CD's.
I think people would also probably buy more CD's if they knew for a fact that the money was going directly to the artist, not just a small percent of it.
I still think downloading is ok, and if the music industry is going to judge people on it, then they should make some changes (as i have suggested) to make buying CD"s appear more appealing to the consumer.
I agree with what Kassy said up there about how though0.99 doesn't seem like that much, when you get into the hundreds or even thousands of songs on your ipod it can become quite pricey.
ReplyDeleteCan we also mention how 1. in order to buy music off of itunes you need access to a credit card number which many teenagers dont have/parents aren't willing to give out at random and and 2 how ripping music from cd's takes a long time and doing that from 20cd's for 1 song each seems like a lot of work...so i also think that it becomes an issue of convenience now a days? it ust seems easier to open limewire type in the song and add it right there.
I do, however, like the idea put forth by some people of having a balance and buying some music/videos so that it "balances out" so to speak..i think this provides a good copromise
I still stick with my position saying that downloading can be helpful and that there is nothig wrong with it.
That could work too, if cd's were cheaper or if buying them was more "consumer friendly" maybe dwnloading could be less of a problem?
ReplyDeleteRading farthur up just now, i agree with the analygy that whoren gave saying that its been going on forver...the music busiess is still afloat today and as whoren said we have much bigger problems in the world things such as the state of the economy, the environment and the effect thats all having on countries, especialy some of the third world ones so im not sure if its somethig worth stressing over too, too much..
I still don't personally have a problem with downloading. I do agree with htyssn8 that if CD's were cheaper, i would probably buy more of them. The Problem with me and CD's is that i dont always like all of the music on it. Thats why I download because I can just get one specific song that I'm looking for. It's just easier and cheaper. It is definately more convenient to download. If I find a song I like I'm not going to run to HMV or something to go buy the CD it's easier to pull up limewire and download it. I'm pretty sure that most people that download probably wouldn't bother much with music if they couldn't download. Music wouldn't be as popular or getting around as quick as it does because of downloading. So I'm going to continue to say that I do not think downloading is a big of a problem as people make it out to be.
ReplyDeleteI personally think that downloading is perfectly fine and think that it is the future of the music industry like numerous people have said up there. The artists can complain that no one is buying cd's but in order to be able to download music someone must have bought cd's and uploaded it onto limewire, ares etc.
ReplyDelete......fyi there are a ton of songs to download therefore lots of people must have bought cd's. And in my opinion the artists are just greedy because majority of mainstream artists make millions of dollars each year so $100,000 to them is like a nickel to us????
Also if the artists were so concerned about there profits maybe they should spend there money more wisely..... 3 mansions, 10 cars, private jets etc.
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ooooo and maybe if the artists werent so lazy they would sue limewire or whatever if it was that big of a deal!!!!!!...im done now
Well instead of listing everyone I agree with I'm just going to say once more that it isnt right for the majority of mainstream artists who make miliions a year, as Jimmy Fiend said, to complain on our free "illegal" downloading. Which i dont understand why its illegal when everyone does it and no ones going to jail like kelsey-chaos said.
ReplyDeleteThere definately need to be a compromise between the recording companies/artists and the people who sell the songs to reduce prices because no one wants to pay about 0.99 a song when we hold hundreds of songs on or music players.
reading all the comments kind of makes me rethink my thoughts through this matter. I still stand by my idea that it affects less popular artists's more, but they artists ARE losing lots of money because of this downloading thing.
ReplyDeleteI believe the only way I can possibly try to fully understand is by putting myself in the artist's shoes and asking myself the question 'How would I feel if I knew people are downloading my songs for free?'
Admittedly, I'd be pretty happy. But that's just my own opinion. Maybe we all just feel guilty and try to deny that it's a bad thing, because like htyssn8 mentioned, most of us have downloaded free music at least once. whoren is right, there's bigger problems out there than this...
Going from what Shaddy said, if I were to put myself in the artists shoes, 1. Yes, I would feel happy that people are downloading my songs, but 2. I would be somewhat angry that I wasn't making any money from it.
ReplyDeleteBut I agree with whoren that beginning artists can use downloading as a tool to get their music out onto the market. I also agree with MC, CRJ that there are some times when I don't like a few songs on a CD, and it's just easier and cheaper to download the ones I like, rather than paying more money for something that I don't want.
I'm going to stick to the first side and say that downloading really isn't something we should worry about. Its just another marketing tool used by bands, and many artists still make lots of money from concerts as well as loyal fans that continue to buy their CD's and songs from itunes.
You know, I think the world will eventually figure something out. Even if something isn't done immediately about this particular issue, with given time a system will probably be established that makes sure everything is fair for the artists who really need this to stop. So, is it causing a problem for some artists? probably. Is it going to be solved eventually? I'd say probably. It may take a few years, but who knows? technology moves at a very fast pace.
ReplyDeleteI think that the issue of downloading music should not be taken that seriously. Times change and if people in the music industry want to make a living from music they'll have to learn to adapt as does every person in every industry. Also, I wouldn't say that music companies are not losing nearly enough money to be worried about. It seems that the media is still filled with music stars living the high life. If I can't afford to drive to school everyday in a limo I don't see why I shold care whether Britney Spears can or not either.
ReplyDeleteHaving read Shahed's most recent post I have had a slight change of heart. There are definately start up artists who are very talented but are not hollywood stars yet who may be very affected by this issue. Some artist may really need this money and some not as well known producing companies may need the money too. I think Shahed is right that a system will soon establish itself to make sure everything is fair. UNtil then I think we do need to excercise some personal judgement and ask ourselves in some cases are we doing the irght thing by downloading an unknown artist's music. I still stand by what I said about artist's needing to adapt to the changing times if they do want to make it in the music industry.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Whoren's posts that artist should feel honoured that there music is being downloaded. If the musicians are really about the music and not the money then it shouldn't matter a whole lot. It is a good marketing tool as well as many people have mentionned. Also, as i said about musicians adapting to changing times, if musicians are only making money because producing companies can change there voice to make people want to pay 0.99 for the song then the song isn't worth it in my opinion. True, i might download "ilegally" too but I think everyone can say that they'd rather see a live show from a band then listen to them on there ipod. If an artist isn't good enough to be making enough money on there performances then should they really be trying to make it in the music industry? Is downloading music the real scam or trying to make me pay 0.99 for a song that can't actually be sung by the artist without the aid of a computer.
ReplyDeleteAs I have previously said, I do not beleive that music downloading is such a horrible thing.(Like Alanna said), Artists should be honoured that people are downloading thier music. I also agree with Freemama that Cds and Itunes are selling their songs for a price that is too high for people to pay for all of the muusic that they buy. If these companies wanted to lower prices jjust a little bit, They would probbably make alot more money, because people would want to buy more CDs.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I will not beleive that music downloading is bad until the artists actively speak out against it. And speaking of that, if artists had a problem with downloading, they would simply sue these websites, they go out of business and it would be impossible to download music.
Like I said before, as long as people do not compullsively download hundreds of songs daily, downloading isn't that big of a problem.
I beleive that music downloading is not a problem, and if the artists have a problem with it, they should fight the source; the studios. They would be the ones with the fresh music, and even if some people buy the CD and put music on the internet that way, a CD has been bought so there should be no complaining.
ReplyDeleteI agree with some others, where the big name artists should not be fighting this issue because what is another $100,00 to them? It's the up and coming musicians that should have a real fight, and for them, I feel bad. I still beleive that if the music is on the internet then they have got money somehow from it so whether it's the difference between $15 and $40,000 then that's an issue, but it can't be that bad.
Music downloading is fine
Music downloading is wrong, but that dosent stop me or anyone else who does it. Musicians have to know that the business they are getting into isnt fair and things may not always go their way. Cam and Warren both bring up good points. Music artists obtain a profit in many more ways thatn just selling albums. Warren, being in a band im sure knows that life isnt fair when it comes to music and downloading is just another problem they will have to deal with. I definately believe downloading is wrong but that dosent matter. If musicians have time to complain about it then they shouldnt be in the business. Warren was right when he said musicians should just be happy they are getting noticed. Afterall, they are here to entertain, not make tons of money right? Just kidding, they need money too, but they will have to get it in other ways than iTunes and other places. If bands or musicians or groups are good enough, music downlaoading wont be a problem for them.
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ok.. i just realized how to write on this thing... but i have to say that even though it is more convenitent to download, and way less cheeper, it is still stealing. I would agree with Matt. It is just like walking into a grocery store and taking food with out paying for it. The music that was made is a product, and people put a lot of time and energy into making these songs. I do admit that i download songs for all the reasons i stated before. This is still a problem and i think that it needs to have more consequences beucase it is so easy to download the music without getting caught, and it is wrong to do so.
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ReplyDeletePersonally, I dont really have any problem with downloading. I download the majority of my music since I never have money and I dont have a job, but if I really like a movie or a band I will buy their DVD/CD. I know that not everybody does this, but as long as there ARE people who do this, then they are still earning money. And they also earn money from stuff like concerts, royalties, merchandise of themselves...and so on. And also, musicians arent the only people cheated out of SOME of their money. Illegal goods are sold all over the place. And I mean stuff like car parts, tickets, pretty much anything you can steal. And there are also other things like sketchy surgeries and stuff like that. While although these arent nearly as common as music downloading, it does happen to others too and the musicians need to get over it and find a way around it. Its not like they are poor or anything anyway.
I have 2 different opinions on the subject because i can see both sides opinions and why they are both understandable. Artists are going to be angry because it is their job to make music and to make money. If they make music then all their music is around the world but no money is made i would be mad too. Thats hard work down the drain. I do downlaod music though and it is how i get all of my music. It is convenient and also very easy. Any song is at our fingertips. Therefore i understand that poeple do not agree with these illegal issues. That is why i am torn on the issue.
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ReplyDeletecheck it out, my band just put up our newest song!... sadly its NOT downloadable :(
ps. Fish spelt "people" wrong but thats OK I agree with his last point but I don't think it's the artists that are complaining. The industry are the ones that have the issues. When I see artist on telivison and interviews (other then Mettalica) I haven't heard any of them complaining about illegal downloading. Infact some actually promote it, most indie bands do anyways.
sorry warren but telivison is spelled "television" but anyway artists are always complaining:example mettalica, and the only reason indie bands promote it is so that they can get their name out there and make money, which this comes down to in the end because when they find no money coming in due to no cd sales, they will not like downloading music anymore.
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